Conversations
With
God
“About--Lepers,
Home
Security
And
Complacency”
“So,
what
brings
you
here
today?
Upset
the
Yankees
lost
in the
bottom
of the
ninth?”
God
slapped
his
knee
and
laughed
heartily.
“No,
sir…er…God…Is
it okay
if I
just
call
you
God,
sir?”
“Certainly,
son.”
God
reached
out
his
great
hand
and
placed
it on
my shoulder.
At first
I started
to flinch,
nervous
as one
might
be if
a great
grizzly
bear
were
about
to lay
its
needle-sharp
clawed
paw
on your
shoulder.
But
I checked
myself.
After
three
prior
visits,
I was
feeling
somewhat
secure
in the
Almighty’s
presence.
“Why
you
can
call
me Henry
Ford
if you
like.
I liked
old
Henry.
He said,
‘I don’t
care
what
you
say
about
me or
call
me,
just
say
my name
and
I’ll
be happy.’
I feel
the
same
way,
son.
Doesn’t
matter
to me
what
people
call
me as
long
as they
know
I’m
here
for
them,
their
Creator.”
Sometimes
I wondered
if God
could
see
inside
me,
see
that
I was
part
atheist,
part
agnostic,
mostly
skeptical,
always
cautious
about
turning
over
my power
of belief
to some
source
I couldn’t
see
or touch
or feel
or smell.
These
visits
were
weakening
that
Doubting
Thomas
in me.
“So,
what’s
knotting
your
gut,
Cliff?”
God
leaned
back
in his
great
chair.
It was
very
similar
to the
one
I had
seen
at Saint
Peter’s
Basilica
in Rome.
It overpowered
the
senses
with
its
power
and
might,
and
God’s
figure
sitting
in it
with
his
white
robe
and
long
white
beard,
enhanced
its
magical
aura.
“I was
remembering
the
lepers.
I saw
their
faces
after
all
these
years.”
“I know.
It’s
too
bad
they
have
to take
such
a bad
rap.”
I took
a second
look
at God.
“Bad
Rap,”
I thought.
Not
the
kind
of language
you
expect
issuing
out
of God’s
mouth,
but
then
He liked
to use
modern
slang
to give
him
that
earthy
touch.
“So
why
were
you
thinking
about
the
lepers?”
He offered
me a
Diet
Pepsi.
I shook
my head.
He gulped
a few
swigs
down.
“I was
writing
about
terrorism
in children.
Then
they
just
popped
in my
head.
All
those
faces.
Like
my mind
had
taken
pictures
of them
and
the
file
just
opened.”
“Christmas,
wasn’t
it?
When
you
visited
them?”
“Yes,
sir,
Christmas
Day
to be
exact.”
“The
kids
loved
it.
They
were
very
happy.
And
the
parents
loved
you
for
loving
their
kids.
So why
does
something
good
like
that
make
your
guts
twist?”
“I felt
helpless
when
we left.
Looking
back
at the
leper
compound,
seeing
their
eyes
looking
at us
driving
away,
knowing
they
could
never
leave
there.
It seems
to haunt
me.”
“Feeling
a little
like
a leper
because
no one
is looking
at your
web
page.
No one
is sending
you
‘five
highs’
for
trying
to save
the
world
from
terrorism.”
I laughed.
“Excuse
me,
sir,
it’s
high
five,
not
five
highs.”
“Really?”
God
raised
his
eyebrow
and
smiled.
“Dyslexia
of the
tongue,
I guess.”
“I really
don’t
think
it’s
that,
God.
It’s
just
so much
work.
I write
every
day
and
can’t
seem
to get
the
promotion
going.”
“Let’s
see,
it has
been
about
fifty-five
days
since
the
terrorists
attacked,
and
you’ve
done
a lot,
Cliff.
You’re
just
impatient.
Think
about
me.
I’ve
been
up here
since
eternity,
waiting
for
mankind
and
womankind
to find
some
common
ground
that
would
bind
them
together.
What
makes
you
think
you
can
do what
I haven’t
been
able
to?”
I sat
back.
God’s
Voice
raised
in timbre
as he
spoke,
as though
I were
His
errant
child
trying
to grab
hold
of his
Almighty
robe
tails.
“Sir,
I didn’t
mean…”
“Aww…just
kidding
around,
Cliff.
You’re
on the
right
track.
Look,
how
many
other
Cliff’s
are
there
in the
world
right
now
doing
what
you’re
doing?
Trying
to find
some
solution
to terrorism
of the
mind,
body
and
soul?
Think
about
it,
Cliff?
Maybe
you’re
one
of many
and
don’t
know
it.
Maybe
there’s
a whole
herd
of people
pounding
their
heads
against
thick
brick
walls
like
you
with
their
own
systems
and
techniques,
all
leading
to the
same
destination—unity
of the
parents.
Ever
think
about
that?
“Well,
frankly,
no Sir,
I haven’t.”
“Maybe
it’s
time
you
did.
Maybe
you
should
be working
on alliances
with
people
who
fight
the
same
battle
instead
of trying
to stand-alone.
One
man’s
Voice
doesn’t
ring
as loudly
as ten,
or a
hundred,
or a
thousand.”
“Don’t
forget
the
women,
God.”
It was
my turn
to jab
at his
ribs.
“Of
course
not.
It’s
just
that
over
so many
centuries
and
millenniums,
it takes
a little
getting
used
to—thousands
of men
and
women’s
Voices—how’s
that?”
“Much
better,
Sir.”
I paused
and
looked
at the
fluffy
white
clouds
that
formed
a carpet
upon
which
our
chairs
rested.
The
round,
soft
texture
of their
shape
was
comforting,
reassuring.
“I think
it is
the
lepers
though.
I think
about
a child
trapped
in terrorism.
Thinking
he or
she
isn’t
good
enough,
big
enough,
strong
enough,
white
enough,
smart
enough,
handsome
enough,
pretty
enough,
thin
enough…”
“I wished
I never
had
created
that
comparison
thought,”
God
muttered.
“It
has
brought
such
terrible
results.
People
looking
at one
another,
comparing
the
quality
of their
clothes,
the
hang
of their
head,
the
scars
they
bear,
the
shoes
they
wear—even
the
homes
they
live
in.
But
I had
no choice.
Evolution
is based
on the
hierarchy.
There
are
the
strong
and
the
weak,
the
rich
and
the
poor,
the
mighty
and
the
meek.
Comparison
was
necessary
for
matter
to exist.
There
had
to be
a plus
and
a minus,
a bottom
and
a top,
a Love
and
a Hate,
or otherwise
everything
would
be Perfect.
There
would
be life
as we
know
it,
no struggle
to achieve,
no Good
versus
Evil.”
My head
was
a little
dazed
by the
commentary
God
seemed
bent
on having
with
Himself
over
creating
the
Act
of Comparison.
“But,
I was
talking
about
the
lepers’
children,
Sir.”
“Perhaps
you
were,”
God
said,
“or,
you
were
comparing
yourself
to one
of those
children,
locked
behind
a fence
because
their
parents
were
lepers,
and
the
laws
of society
wouldn’t
let
them
out
for
fear
they
might
be infected.
Maybe,
you
were
feeling
sad
you
were
locked
in your
own
leper
colony.
Maybe
you
were
feeling
alone
and
frightened
for
such
a big
guy.”
My instincts
were
to argue
with
God,
but
my common
sense
told
me that
would
be futile
and
inappropriate.
“You
think
I’m
just
feeling
a bit
down
because
the
world
is passing
me by?”
“I’m
not
saying
anything,
Cliff,
just
thinking
out
loud.
Look,
you’re
on the
brink
of Complacency.
I think
you
call
it:
the
don’t-give-a-shit-factor,
don’t
you?”
I nodded,
reluctantly.
“Well,
maybe
you’re
just
standing
in your
own
leper
colony
looking
out
at a
world
you
think
you’ll
never
be allowed
to enter.
Maybe
you
think
nobody
will
ever
read
your
words,
or be
inspired
by them
to take
action
and
start
the
ball
rolling.
So you’re
starting
to feel
complacent.
The
energy
is draining
out
of you
because
terrorism
seems
to be
on the
wane.
No new
attacks.
Just
a few
spores
here
and
there
of anthrax.
Hell,
that’s
common
in sheep.
Sheep
farmers
get
it all
the
time.
But,
don’t
misunderstand,
I’m
not
diminishing
any
death
or infection
by people
who
are
using
anthrax
to hurt
others.
That’s
just
out-and-out
a violation
of all
human
compassion.
But,
maybe
you’re
wondering
if you
jumped
off
the
edge
of the
cliff
thinking
you
would
prepare
the
children
and
parents
for
something
that
hasn’t
yet
happened,
and
you’re
disappointed.”
I felt
the
knot
in my
gut
cinch
up.
I had
no idea
what
God
was
talking
about.
Complacency?
No.
I was
here
to talk
about
the
lepers
who
came
back
in my
memory
from
three-
and-a-half
decades
earlier.
“No,
Sir.
I don’t
think
I’m
getting
complacent.”
“Then
why
do you
feel
edgy.
You’re
like
the
boxer
who
gets
all
ready
for
the
championship
bout
and
you’re
dancing
on the
mat,
adrenaline
pumping,
and
the
contender
doesn’t
show
up.
He’s
at home
eating
a thick,
juicy
steak
and
kicking
back
watching
television.
And
you’re
all
tensed
up ready
to fight
and
there’s
nothing
there
to fight
but
your
shadow.”
“I don’t
see
the
analogy,
God.”
“Okay,
let’s
take
the
Home
Security
system
your
President
put
into
place.
Here’s
a whole
new
branch
of your
government
being
formed
to fight
the
shadows
of the
night—the
threat
of something
that
might,
maybe,
possibly
could
happen.
Imagine
chairing
that
job,
Cliff.
You
have
three-hundred
million
people
under
your
watchful
eye,
and
you’re
responsible
for
all
of their
security.
If one
child
or parent
gets
hurt
or maimed
or killed
by any
terrorist
act,
the
crap
rolls
up the
hill
to your
desk.
All
fingers
point
at you
for
letting
it happen.
Now,
that’s
a tough
job,
Cliff.
And
you’re
worried
if anyone
will
read
your
words
or not,
or about
a memory
of a
leper
colony
thirty-five
years
ago.
Why,
that’s
not
even
a blink
of my
eye,
Cliff.
And
you’re
making
it into
some
giant
symbol
of constipation.”
“Er…you
mean,
consternation,
don’t
you,
God?”
“No!”
He snapped
out
the
words.
“I mean
constipation…where
your
bile
gets
blocked…your
sewerage
disposal
system
gets
clogged.
The
Act
of Comparison,
Cliff,
was
intended
for
you
to seek
gratitude.
When
you
look
at your
problems
in life,
they
are
heavy
or light
compared
to whatever
or whomever.
Compared
to the
head
of Home
Security,
you
have
an easy
job,
Cliff.
You
write.
No one
is going
to throw
down
the
body
of a
dead
baby
on your
desk
and
say:
‘How
come
you
let
my child
die?’
But
they
can
and
will
if another
terrorist
attack
happens.
People
like
to blame
others
for
life’s
pains,
Cliff.
It’s
a natural
and
unfortunate
part
of being
human.”
“You
think
I’m
whining,
God?”
I shuffled
in my
chair.
I had
come
to get
some
compassion,
but
was
feeling
like
the
Almighty’s
punching
bag.
“I didn’t
say
that
at all,
Cliff.
I want
you
to understand
this
issue
of Comparison.
Look
what
happens
when
we start
to compare
what
we do
with
our
expectations?
As your
efforts
continue,
your
expectations
grow.
Soon
they
will
be a
huge
mountain,
and
if they
aren’t
realized
you
will
be terrorized
by your
expectations.
And
you
will
run
away
from
the
front
lines,
not
as a
coward
in the
face
of the
enemy,
but
as a
worn-out
sentinel
guarding
a barren
field.
How
long
can
you
cry
wolf
when
there
are
no wolves
to be
seen?
How
long
can
you
hold
your
finger
in the
dyke
when
there
is no
apparent
water
threatening
to flood
the
town
below?
How
long
can
you
believe
in a
God
who
doesn’t
show
His
face,
or lets
terrible
things
happen?
And
how
long
can
you
pound
the
typewriter
and
manage
the
website
without
hearing
a word
back
before
you
toss
in the
towel?
Complacency,
Cliff,
is a
terrible
disease.
It is
like
leprosy.
It attacks
and
leaves,
but
the
residual
effect
lasts
forever.
It’s
called
failure.”
“I’m
confused,
God.
Are
you
suggesting
I’m
failing
to believe
in what
I’m
doing?”
God
leaned
forward
in His
chair.
His
Voice
boomed
through
the
heavens.
“Did
I say
you
were
FAILING?”
I clutched
the
arms
of the
chair.
“No,
sir.”
God
swiped
his
hand
through
His
long,
white
hair.
“Cliff,
so many
of you
worry
about
doing
the
right
thing,
then
when
you
do it,
you
worry
it’s
not
right
enough.
You
start
comparing
your
good
actions
with
how
much
better
they
can
be,
and
then
you
crumble
in a
pile
of complacency,
looking
up at
your
expectations
as though
they
were
the
terrorists
themselves.
Just
think
of this
guy
in charge
of Home
Security,
Cliff.
Think
about
a guy
who
has
been
given
a hundred
million
households
in America
to protect,
and,
about
a hundred
million
children
of all
different
sizes,
shapes
and
ages,
and
over
ten
million
businesses—small
ones,
Cliff,
maybe
five
to seven
employees—and
this
one
guy,
the
head
of Home
Security,
is responsible
for
anything
bad
that
happens.”
“I’m
sorry,
Sir,
but
I am
not
following
what
you’re
saying.”
“You
want
to know
what
it’s
like
to be
God,
Cliff.
There’s
six
billion
people
counting
on me
in one
way
or another.
Every
time
something
goes
wrong---a
bird’s
wing
is broken,
a dog
is hit
by a
car,
a hurricane
storms
ashore,
a child
is stillborn,
a woman
gets
an abortion,
an older
woman
falls
and
breaks
her
hip,
a war
breaks
out,
a child
is abused—guess
who
gets
the
heat,
Cliff?”
God
rose
from
his
chair
and
stabbed
his
finger
into
his
chest.
“Me—moi—estoy!
I get
the
heat,
Cliff.
Now,
this
guy
who
heads
up your
Home
Security
will
be getting
the
heat.
Your
President
put
him
in charge
to take
the
heat
off
the
President.
It’s
easy
to bomb
caves
and
desert
villages
thousands
of miles
away,
but
try
and
catch
a shadow
in your
own
backyard.
You
can’t
do it.
So this
Home
Security
guy
will
be the
fall
guy,
like
I am.
People
say,
‘Well,
if there
is a
loving
God
why
did
He let
this
happen?”
God
was
stomping
back
and
forth
in front
of his
chair.
Chunks
of the
fluffy
clouds
shot
up and
disappeared.
“These
questions
make
you
think—hmmmm,
maybe
there
isn’t
a God….
maybe
he really
doesn’t
care
that
much
about
any
of us
if he
would
let
this
happen….
Well,
this
Home
Security
guy
will
take
so much
heat.
He’s
your
President’s
target.
People
will
shoot
him
for
failing
to protect
them
from
the
bad
guys,
and
then
your
President
will
fire
him
or he’ll
resign,
and
another
target
will
pop
up.
Your
President
will
shield
himself
from
being
responsible
for
Home
Security
because
he can’t
be.
Home
security
belongs
to the
parents.”
“But…but…”
I stammered…”why
are
you
so upset…”
“Because
I don’t
have
a shield.
I don’t
have
someone
in charge
of Home
Security.
I don’t
have
a fall
guy.
I take
all
the
shots
to the
chin.
And
that
pisses
me off
sometimes.”
I shrank
down
in the
chair.
“Then
you
come
up here
and
start
to grovel
about
lepers,
pretending
to be
all
upset
over
some
memory
you
have—when
you’re
real
agenda
is impatience.
I’ve
been
here
for
eternity
taking
the
heat.
I’ve
been
expecting
mankind…and
womankind
to one
day
reach
across
the
barriers
and
embrace
one
another…and
you
have
the
impudence
to come
here
and
feel
your
guts
are
twisted
because
you
haven’t
heard
a peep
in fifty-five
days!
Grow
up,
Cliff!”
I said
nothing.
I wanted
to slip
down
off
the
chair
and
into
the
clouds
where
I could
not
be seen.
“But,
at last,
I’ve
got
something
to compare.
I’m
going
to watch
this
Home
Security
guy,
Cliff,
and
watch
him
take
the
heat
as I
have
been
forever.
I’m
going
to see
what
he’s
made
out
of.
I’m
going
to compare
a little,
how
he handles
it versus
how
I’ve
handled
it.
I’ve
been
watching
the
Pope
for
a long
time.
I cringe
a little
when
he does
his
WE thing,
talking
as though
he were
ME.
But,
he’s
got
his
fall
guy
too—Jesus.
When
things
go wrong,
he kneels
at the
cross.
Jesus
takes
his
bullets.
So,
Cliff,
are
you
telling
me you
want
to blame
me for
no one
giving
a damn
about
what
you’re
doing,
or do
you
want
to blame
me for
what
you
haven’t
done?
You
want
me to
be your
fall
guy?
Do you?”
“Sir,
no….I
really
didn’t
mean
that
at all.”
“Then
why
are
you
here?
Why
are
sitting
before
Almighty
God,
sniveling
about
a dream
you
had
about
an experience
you
had
with
lepers…what
has
that
to do
with
letting
the
world
know
why
they
should
be a
Parent
of Vigilance?”
I felt
like
Jell-O
in the
chair,
melting
under
the
heat
of His
eyes
staring
down
on me.
“Complacency?”
I cried
the
word
as a
child
might
yell
“uncle”
when
wrestling
with
an adult.
“Finally!
Finally!
His
holiness
admits
weakness.
Admits
fault!”
God
sat
down
exasperated,
and
popped
a fresh
Diet
Pepsi.
“I thought
you’d
never
admit
it.
Sorry,
about
being
so tough
on you.”
“Admit
what?”
I shook
my head.
I had
no idea
where
the
word
Complacency
came
from,
but
it shot
out
of my
mouth
at just
the
right
moment.
“Admit
you’re
running
scared…you
don’t
have
to say
the
words…I
can
see
it all
over
your
face…constipation…consternation…worry…concern…frustration…doubt…
It’s
okay…how
are
you
going
to be
honest
about
terrorism
without
experiencing
it…and
you’re
wallowing
in it
right
now…and
so is
that
new
guy
who
has
the
job
of taking
the
heat
for
all
the
terrorism
in America.
I’m
serious.
I’m
going
to watch
him,
maybe
learn
from
him,
maybe
give
him
some
tips.”
“Then
you
think
I just
came
here
to whine,
Sir?”
“Absolutely
not.
You
came
here
to turn
your
fear
into
courage,
your
intimidation
into
conviction,
and
your
complacency
into
action.
I just
dramatized
what
it took
to face
all
those
things.
It’s
not
easy.
Every
day
I feel
them.
I get
afraid
for
you
humans.
I get
intimidated
by your
lack
of faith,
wondering
why
I’m
even
here.
And,
I get
complacent,
sometimes
thinking
about
calling
in the
Big
Meteor
and
starting
afresh.
Except
I know
it would
all
be the
same—all
of us
struggling
together
to be
better
parents.
I want
to be
a better
God,
Cliff.
I evolve.
I grow.
We all
do.
The
universe
is expanding
all
the
time.
Life
is elastic.
And,
it leaves
stretch
marks.
It’s
painful
when
old
skin
molts
and
new,
tender
flesh
takes
its
place.
It’s
not
easy.
That’s
why
you
come
here.
You
face
God
with
your
problems.
And
even
though
I stormed
all
over
you
today,
you
didn’t
crap
your
pants.
Look,
the
seat’s
still
dry.”
God
began
to laugh
uproariously.
“You
still
want
to talk
about
the
lepers
you
visited
thirty-five
years
ago,
Cliff,”
he said,
chuckling
to himself
as he
sat
down.
“No,
Sir,
I have
to go.
I’ve
got
some
promoting
to do.”
“By
the
way,
tell
that
guy
in charge
of Home
Security
I’ll
be watching.”
I had
a feeling
He would
be watching
me too.